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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22238</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy/W. David Samuelson,

Tony, you are right.   Tht is what the FCC wants to do is give real TN instead of proxy telephone number.  I hope the FCC decides SOON on which proposals to use.  

You call the numbers &quot;fake&quot; and it is as good term as any.  Same with SnapVRS, these numbers are not real TN, but proxy nbrs.  

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy/W. David Samuelson,</p>
<p>Tony, you are right.   Tht is what the FCC wants to do is give real TN instead of proxy telephone number.  I hope the FCC decides SOON on which proposals to use.  </p>
<p>You call the numbers &#8220;fake&#8221; and it is as good term as any.  Same with SnapVRS, these numbers are not real TN, but proxy nbrs.  </p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22237</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W. David Samuelson-  Sorenson dont give out real numbers (T.N)  the numbers that I use for VP200 are fake numbers and not in our area code.  Many ppl can makeup their own numbers.  I prefer real T.N for all vrs users so that we can make call no matter what equipments they use.  I learned from Sorenson Trainer that the numbers are fake numbers and the ip address is hide behind the fake numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W. David Samuelson-  Sorenson dont give out real numbers (T.N)  the numbers that I use for VP200 are fake numbers and not in our area code.  Many ppl can makeup their own numbers.  I prefer real T.N for all vrs users so that we can make call no matter what equipments they use.  I learned from Sorenson Trainer that the numbers are fake numbers and the ip address is hide behind the fake numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-21071</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W David Samuelson.

The numbers assigned to VRS users by the VRS providers are free.   It does not cost VRS users anything.  

Ed  

PS: back in office after a few days of absence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W David Samuelson.</p>
<p>The numbers assigned to VRS users by the VRS providers are free.   It does not cost VRS users anything.  </p>
<p>Ed  </p>
<p>PS: back in office after a few days of absence.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-21070</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

I&#039;m not sure where u got this from exactly. Can u give me where u got this so I can review it? 

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where u got this from exactly. Can u give me where u got this so I can review it? </p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: W. David Samuelsen</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-20676</link>
		<dc:creator>W. David Samuelsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Why should I have TWO FREAKING NUMBERS? Don&#039;t these VRS companies know it cost EXTRA to have 2nd number? (It&#039;s 25 dollars extra)

In Utah the numbers are not easily dished out. They are tight controlled to ensure that we don&#039;t have too many area codes too quick. The usual arrangement is a block of 10,000 numbers. Not Utah - they managed to shave it down to only 1,000 to give out, slowing down the speed toward profic area codes.

One is enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>Why should I have TWO FREAKING NUMBERS? Don&#8217;t these VRS companies know it cost EXTRA to have 2nd number? (It&#8217;s 25 dollars extra)</p>
<p>In Utah the numbers are not easily dished out. They are tight controlled to ensure that we don&#8217;t have too many area codes too quick. The usual arrangement is a block of 10,000 numbers. Not Utah &#8211; they managed to shave it down to only 1,000 to give out, slowing down the speed toward profic area codes.</p>
<p>One is enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-20617</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the &quot; the only agency already approved by FCC to handle 911 calls?&quot;  That just sounds wrong, maybe it&#039;s just not making sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the &#8221; the only agency already approved by FCC to handle 911 calls?&#8221;  That just sounds wrong, maybe it&#8217;s just not making sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-20605</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W. David,

What NeuStar is saying, I believe, what will happen is that as a VRS or IP user, you will get a telephone number (TN) that will become your phone number for VRS or IP.   In other words, let&#039;s say you got 512 456 7890 from, oh say Sorenson VRS. Sorenson VRS now is your &quot;primary&quot; VRS where hearing persons calling you will go through SorensonVRS.   Another person who has Viable or SNAPVRS video phone will be able to call you with that number.  Ok?  Now for some reason you don&#039;t like Sorenson and prefer CAC, all you need to do is call CAC and tell them u want them to become ur primary VRS.  Same phone number, no need to change.  Now to what NeuStar is trying to say that your regular phone number that you had all long for TTY or voice will remain with you.   You will not be able to use the same ph number as ur home number for VRS.  So in that sense, you will have two phone numbers:  one for TTY and one for VRS.   I hope I make sense.  I will try to expand on this next week.

Good question..

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W. David,</p>
<p>What NeuStar is saying, I believe, what will happen is that as a VRS or IP user, you will get a telephone number (TN) that will become your phone number for VRS or IP.   In other words, let&#8217;s say you got 512 456 7890 from, oh say Sorenson VRS. Sorenson VRS now is your &#8220;primary&#8221; VRS where hearing persons calling you will go through SorensonVRS.   Another person who has Viable or SNAPVRS video phone will be able to call you with that number.  Ok?  Now for some reason you don&#8217;t like Sorenson and prefer CAC, all you need to do is call CAC and tell them u want them to become ur primary VRS.  Same phone number, no need to change.  Now to what NeuStar is trying to say that your regular phone number that you had all long for TTY or voice will remain with you.   You will not be able to use the same ph number as ur home number for VRS.  So in that sense, you will have two phone numbers:  one for TTY and one for VRS.   I hope I make sense.  I will try to expand on this next week.</p>
<p>Good question..</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-20604</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,
 Thanks for fixing the link to Neustar&#039;s website. Meanwhile I checked into it, it is nice to know about Neustar which it is well known as network naming.. It seems to me it is non-VRS which I think it is neutral to VRS compeitors.. I am glad that it is one of proposals.

Lloyd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,<br />
 Thanks for fixing the link to Neustar&#8217;s website. Meanwhile I checked into it, it is nice to know about Neustar which it is well known as network naming.. It seems to me it is non-VRS which I think it is neutral to VRS compeitors.. I am glad that it is one of proposals.</p>
<p>Lloyd</p>
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		<title>By: W. David Samuelsen</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-20580</link>
		<dc:creator>W. David Samuelsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

Can you enlighten me about one part of Neustar proposal?

Did I read it right, I have to get MY phone number from different group instead of my usual Broadband company (Qwest in my case) just for VRS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>Can you enlighten me about one part of Neustar proposal?</p>
<p>Did I read it right, I have to get MY phone number from different group instead of my usual Broadband company (Qwest in my case) just for VRS?</p>
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		<title>By: W. David Samuelsen</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/02/19/numbering-system/comment-page-1/#comment-20579</link>
		<dc:creator>W. David Samuelsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorenson have no issues with ip numbers from Sorenson to Ojo, etc. It is the the other way around - Ojo, Viable, etc who continue to stick to IP rather than move toward interoperability.

I heard plenty from the past users of Ojo and Viable - they do NOT like IP numbers. Wanted normal phone numbers.

And this is a completely separate issue from the 911 proposals Ed is talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorenson have no issues with ip numbers from Sorenson to Ojo, etc. It is the the other way around &#8211; Ojo, Viable, etc who continue to stick to IP rather than move toward interoperability.</p>
<p>I heard plenty from the past users of Ojo and Viable &#8211; they do NOT like IP numbers. Wanted normal phone numbers.</p>
<p>And this is a completely separate issue from the 911 proposals Ed is talking about.</p>
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