Comments on: Rule and Order, and Public Notice by FCC on Emergency and Numbering http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/ POSTS ALERTS REGARDING TRS & ITS RELATED ISSUES Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:35:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-54253 edsalert Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:40:28 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-54253 C, What you suggest may ultimately be used if the Congress wants to reduce the overall cost of VRS/IP Relay services. Will it happen? I don't know. eyes open & thumbs up, Ed C,

What you suggest may ultimately be used if the Congress wants to reduce the overall cost of VRS/IP Relay services. Will it happen? I don’t know.

eyes open & thumbs up,

Ed

]]> By: C http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-54246 C Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:14:22 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-54246 To respond to your last comment: it may be the case because point to point calls on VPs do not occur on public telecommunication networks. Also, from a pragmatic viewpoint, I do not see the need for VRS providers to pay for numbers for the mere reason of allowing hearing people the convenience of not having to enter IP addresses. Yeah, there is really no clear-cut answer to everything. Maybe it will all be easier if every VRS consumer is to pay for the services, equipment, etc. just like hearing folks do with their unsubsidized phone services. To respond to your last comment: it may be the case because point to point calls on VPs do not occur on public telecommunication networks. Also, from a pragmatic viewpoint, I do not see the need for VRS providers to pay for numbers for the mere reason of allowing hearing people the convenience of not having to enter IP addresses.

Yeah, there is really no clear-cut answer to everything. Maybe it will all be easier if every VRS consumer is to pay for the services, equipment, etc. just like hearing folks do with their unsubsidized phone services.

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-53846 edsalert Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:34:04 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-53846 jmv, The FCC in its infinite wisdom decided in the ruling of Number Order not to give TN to hearing folks. What was interesting about this is that FCC is the only one that thinks that; deaf/hoh, hearing persons, VRS Industry, and leading organizations/associaitons of the deaf/hon population all think hearing persons should get TN. Here is your opportunity to send an ex parte to the FCC expressing outrage on this and beseech them to let hearing persons get TN for their TN. That said, there is one slight problem with that. Did I say "slight"? Big problem really. VP needs to be configured and work with number database service company (NeuStar). So really if hearing persons want TN, they will need to purchase VP from VRS providers. Just any VP manufacturers that do not have any ties with VRS won't work. eyes open & thumbs up, Ed jmv,

The FCC in its infinite wisdom decided in the ruling of Number Order not to give TN to hearing folks. What was interesting about this is that FCC is the only one that thinks that; deaf/hoh, hearing persons, VRS Industry, and leading organizations/associaitons of the deaf/hon population all think hearing persons should get TN.

Here is your opportunity to send an ex parte to the FCC expressing outrage on this and beseech them to let hearing persons get TN for their TN.

That said, there is one slight problem with that. Did I say “slight”? Big problem really. VP needs to be configured and work with number database service company (NeuStar). So really if hearing persons want TN, they will need to purchase VP from VRS providers. Just any VP manufacturers that do not have any ties with VRS won’t work.

eyes open & thumbs up,

Ed

]]> By: JMV http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-53641 JMV Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:11:11 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-53641 Curious - I am a hearing person, but I am fluent using Sign Language. Since I am not Deaf I cannot register with a VRS. I prefer to call my Deaf friends directly instead of using relay. How would I be able to call from my unregistered vp to a TRS number? Curious – I am a hearing person, but I am fluent using Sign Language. Since I am not Deaf I cannot register with a VRS. I prefer to call my Deaf friends directly instead of using relay. How would I be able to call from my unregistered vp to a TRS number?

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-31939 edsalert Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:32:17 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-31939 Hi No Name, I stand corrected. A few of the VRS providers do provide real 800/866 phone numbers. However, it is not a number that emergency centers will recognize and know who you are. The new TN (with area code - not 800/866 - and 7 regional digit phone number) will make it possible for Emergency Centers to know "automatically" who and what you are. SorensonVRS and a couple other VRS providers have a way to identify, but not thru automatic system like regular telephone number. The new Rule and Order will require that. Thanks for pointing this out. eyes open & thumbs up, Ed B. Hi No Name,

I stand corrected. A few of the VRS providers do provide real 800/866 phone numbers.

However, it is not a number that emergency centers will recognize and know who you are. The new TN (with area code – not 800/866 – and 7 regional digit phone number) will make it possible for Emergency Centers to know “automatically” who and what you are. SorensonVRS and a couple other VRS providers have a way to identify, but not thru automatic system like regular telephone number. The new Rule and Order will require that.

Thanks for pointing this out.

eyes open & thumbs up,

Ed B.

]]> By: No Name http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-31932 No Name Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:05:12 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-31932 One correction here - CSDVRS has been providing customer a real toll free number and it is not a proxy. CSDVRS has been explaining customers that they are getting a real number from the telephone company. Thanks One correction here – CSDVRS has been providing customer a real toll free number and it is not a proxy.

CSDVRS has been explaining customers that they are getting a real number from the telephone company.

Thanks

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-23588 edsalert Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:48:35 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-23588 David, I don't think I answered ur question. You have different vp in ur house, does that mean you will get different ph nbrs for each vp with this system? I am now trying to find out answer to that. I got partial answer, and so far my impression is that one number for all vp in ur house. I'm not sure of the technolical difficulties of that, though. Hopefully we'll learn more as we go on. Ed David,

I don’t think I answered ur question. You have different vp in ur house, does that mean you will get different ph nbrs for each vp with this system? I am now trying to find out answer to that. I got partial answer, and so far my impression is that one number for all vp in ur house. I’m not sure of the technolical difficulties of that, though.

Hopefully we’ll learn more as we go on.

Ed

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-23472 edsalert Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:43:30 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-23472 ML, I believe that one will get TN from VRS provider. I don't think there will be any charges for that/monthly or otherwise - at least to my knowledge. Ed B ML,

I believe that one will get TN from VRS provider. I don’t think there will be any charges for that/monthly or otherwise – at least to my knowledge.

Ed B

]]> By: ML http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-23465 ML Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:22:36 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-23465 Thank you for keeping us posted on these important issues. I have a question about TN. The idea of having TN is exciting. Does this mean the ownership of TN is required through a telephone company like hearing people do with their telephone company? (paying monthly fee for telephone service and his or her TN) Best, ML Thank you for keeping us posted on these important issues.

I have a question about TN. The idea of having TN is exciting. Does this mean the ownership of TN is required through a telephone company like hearing people do with their telephone company? (paying monthly fee for telephone service and his or her TN)

Best,
ML

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/comment-page-1/#comment-23443 edsalert Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:59:34 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/2008/03/28/rule-and-order-and-public-notice-by-fcc-on-emergency-and-numbering/#comment-23443 Dianrez, It is slightly different than NexTalk in the sense that this FCC rule and order requires using "real" number where emergency dispatchers will recognize who you and where you are calling from. I think NexTalk uses proxy number. FCc will require area code, not 800 or 888, and then rest of 7 digit ph nbr that is right for your area. One thing I'm not sure about is the portablity of the numbers. What if you move from Maine to Texas, will you keep the same ph nbr? In reading rule and oder, it seems you will keep the same ph nbr, so that begs the question on what about area code? There are still lot of questions that I do not have answer to yet. eyes open & thumbs up, Ed Dianrez,

It is slightly different than NexTalk in the sense that this FCC rule and order requires using “real” number where emergency dispatchers will recognize who you and where you are calling from. I think NexTalk uses proxy number. FCc will require area code, not 800 or 888, and then rest of 7 digit ph nbr that is right for your area.

One thing I’m not sure about is the portablity of the numbers. What if you move from Maine to Texas, will you keep the same ph nbr? In reading rule and oder, it seems you will keep the same ph nbr, so that begs the question on what about area code? There are still lot of questions that I do not have answer to yet.

eyes open & thumbs up,

Ed

]]>