Meter for Internet Use?
23 09 2008
All..
Yuk! This article is basically about Time Warner using a meter on customer to limit their "excessive" use of Internet network.
Meter for Internet Use Article
This is bit scary. What about us deaf/hon who use video phones and VRS extensively? Or for that matter those of VRS providers who employ deaf/hoh to make VRS calls to rack up VRS minutes? Or those deaf/hoh organizations who sign up with VRS providers and then rack up VRS minutes to get their funds?
Read the article and the letter be concerned as it may impact us in a big way….
Will all this affect the traffic of Internet network and meters forced on us? Let us know what you think?
eyes open & thumbs up,
Ed B
wasn’t able to open the DOCX file as i presume you’re using Vista? i’m still using XP. (smile)
Has anyone done testing to find out the monthly data (or bandwidth) usage of a Video Phone that is being used for 4-6 hours a day? The total usage might not even be close to 250G and we wouldn’t need to worry.
If Comcast or another ISP decides to lower the usage limit significantly, that would be cause for concern!
I have no idea what the monthly data usage for using a VP 4-6 hours a day is. Sorry.
i dont know nothing but i just have first time to have vp as not know well just one month since i join road runner as cable as vp too
Yes, That’s scary. Yes, we should be worried. I hope NAD will take a note of the information you just explained in your vlog and the article that you linked for us and NAD will do something about it. Thanks for letting us know. Aidan
Fact, few ISP in UK already have that kind of meter or time of use. Been done for several years. Checked one of the ISP, apparently that Warner Times owns it - not surprise that they got an idea from UK and brought it into here.
Off the point, I am SICK of America’s business own everywhere around the world.
Later…
Yes it was printed in Washington Post and Baltimore Star newspapers and there are so many Comcast customers complaining to FCC about Comcast’s propose..
So far I havent seen one article or hear any word from my friends around here about this issue.
Hope it will enforce Comcast to increase service without limiting us or charging us meter for using the internet service.
What we deaf and hard of hearing people should do - is to write a letter or send email to FCC about using the internet for making calls thru video relay services and also other purposes (that’s what my hearing friend suggested)
Keep eyes and thumbs up!
Ed wrote:
>>Or for that matter those of VRS providers who employ deaf/hoh to make VRS calls to rack up VRS minutes? Or those deaf/hoh organizations who sign up with VRS providers and then rack up VRS minutes to get their funds?
Question: I thought the FCC outlawed both those practices? Isn’t it illegal for VRS providers to provide ANY financial or other incentive to churn VRS minutes?
i dont think it applies to vrs or vp at all. I think it applies to internet itself only.
I find this interesting that make us concern about it but should it not to be concern cuz…
From Deafvideo.tv i were talk about it on vlog and was talk about what happen to Comcast Co. change to “RECAP” internet usage…
Here what comcast has to say…
250 GB/month is an extremely large amount of data, much more than a typical residential customer uses on a monthly basis. Currently, the median monthly data usage by our residential customers is approximately 2 - 3 GB. To put 250 GB of monthly usage in perspective, a customer would have to do any one of the following:
Send 50 million emails (at 0.05 KB/email)
Download 62,500 songs (at 4 MB/song)
Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)
Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)
Interesting and shall we worry about it??
Thank
Brian Morace
Aidan.. hello !!
That’s interesting…Just wondering, Brian, what kind of usage would an hour-long videophone conversation be? I imagine it would be different than straight downloading of movies, right?
Ed, the docx link that you posted of Comcast’s letter will not open on my computer, and I have the usual programs. Can you uploade a .pdf or save it as a .txt file?
To hit the 250GB monthly limit, you would almost have to leave it on a VRS call almost 24/hours a day, everyday.
I suspect this deaf user was downloading many other files, in addition to VRS calls, which triggered this email from Comcast.
To hit the 250GB monthly limit, you would have to leave it on a VRS call almost 24/hours a day, everyday.
I suspect this deaf user was downloading many other files, in addition to VRS calls, which triggered this email from Comcast.
Jared’s most likely correct on that one. A good downloading session via BitTorrent can do it unless you limit the download speed. Movies can range from 700 megs to 4-7 gigs all the way to 25 gigs. I occasionally download a live OS DVD like Knoppix which is freeware, and is about 2-3 gigs. It can take a couple hours to download.
I noticed many deafies use internet all day and night long. I know because I keep seeing their names on my AIM buddy list.
Good comments, folks!
A few clarifications: VRS or VP does use Internet. Video conference calls DO gobble lot of usage that Internet Providers wince at.
Although, it would be interesting to actually measure how much video conference takes up, say in one hour.
On the Comcast letter; it is same as what Brian Morace commented above. In the future, I’ll try converting either to pdf or txt format.
eyes open & thumbs up,
Ed
JK-II,
Your comment. I thought the same, yet a few VRS providers are doing that now. I understand a few people and VRS providers ALREADY have filed ex-parte complaints to the FCC on that.
So the eyes are on the FCC on these. What is the FCC doing about that? So far nothing.
I hope to explore this in the future edsalert.com and see what y’all think of that. I already did that, but plan to do again since many of you have become more knowledgeable on the FCC regulations.
eyes open & thumbs up,
Ed
Hi Paul,
I find your last comment intriguing. We Americans are now saying we’re sick of rest of world taking over America. In every motel/hotel especially in the rural areas are owned by non-American (India, Thailand, etc). Convenient gas stores are mostly owned by non-American (Arabs). Even the large corporations, although in past were owned by Americans, are now owned by non-American (Japan, Korea, and even China in its recent purchase of IBM products). Most of the stock markets in the USA are owned by non-Americans close to 40% or at least something like that. The support service in many America companies use non-America persons. Even one of the Internet Relay service in USA is handled by non-America (Canada). I can go on and on…
The point is you may see American brand-name everywhere in Europe, but likely it is owned by a non-American corporation.
Cheers…
Ed
>Or for that matter those of VRS providers who employ deaf/hoh to make VRS >calls to rack up VRS minutes? Or those deaf/hoh organizations who sign up >with VRS providers and then rack up VRS minutes to get their funds?
Sure would like to know more about this… is it ok for VRS to use a marketing firm staffed by deaf people using that VRS (kinda of a kickback practice) to make VRS calls all day to hearing aid clinics/ hospitals etc?
Wondering,
Good question. A few VRS providers seem to think so. My interpretation of the regulation says no.
I understand that they have “kickback” by agreement (I would like to know if it is verbal or text contract
where marketing service that is not part of VRS provider “promise” to use that VRS provider in return for kickback of $1 per min.
We’ll explore all this later…
eyes open & thumbs up,
Ed
Hello,
I read about the Comcast that other cable provider look up at Comcast role of business. The speed thing that basic true; however, it doesn’t effect another the Cable. If you are conernce about that limited bandwidth issue. Please contact one of your Cable provider, but I know Time Warner (Roadrunner) and the Comcast default to settle that plan. However; I know so far is.. ATT, Verison, and the COX haven’t decide to default that bandwidth usage.
Again — FCC told the Comcast, you can look up at FCC website and say that should fairshare 400GB. It fair enough to use 400GB due average of usage to use videophone and the computer such as internet website surf. 350GB to 450GB expect for home owner business, probably double which they should specific on customer.
One negative thing that our kids use download the music that count meter, even email or chatting on AIM that count.
I think it is crazy.