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		<title>By: Dianrez</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-62076</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ed,
As I understand it, this cable company is going to a tier pricing system where people using less bandwidth for their internet service pays less, $30, and those who use more bandwidth pays more. This is going to affect those on a fixed income who can barely afford high speed fees.

Apparently this model has been used in other parts of the country, including part of Texas. Maybe you could do a blog on this.  Maybe answer some questions such as:

How does this affect the deaf videophone user?  Would a heavy vp user have a difference from the rare videophone user?

Would using IP-relay be cost effective over the vp?

How does this affect the deaf person without English skills who depends on the vp for all his phone use?

What are the ways one would cut bandwidth usage: turn off the computer (and internet connection) when not in use, stop downloading movies, stop internet gaming, avoid downloading anything, etc.?

Here&#039;s the newspaper link:
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090402/BUSINESS/904020342&amp;referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

Thanks for your work on our behalf. I had to use this way to bring this to your attention since your email address has changed due to your retirement. All the best,
Diane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ed,<br />
As I understand it, this cable company is going to a tier pricing system where people using less bandwidth for their internet service pays less, $30, and those who use more bandwidth pays more. This is going to affect those on a fixed income who can barely afford high speed fees.</p>
<p>Apparently this model has been used in other parts of the country, including part of Texas. Maybe you could do a blog on this.  Maybe answer some questions such as:</p>
<p>How does this affect the deaf videophone user?  Would a heavy vp user have a difference from the rare videophone user?</p>
<p>Would using IP-relay be cost effective over the vp?</p>
<p>How does this affect the deaf person without English skills who depends on the vp for all his phone use?</p>
<p>What are the ways one would cut bandwidth usage: turn off the computer (and internet connection) when not in use, stop downloading movies, stop internet gaming, avoid downloading anything, etc.?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the newspaper link:<br />
<a href="http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090402/BUSINESS/904020342&#038;referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL" rel="nofollow">http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090402/BUSINESS/904020342&#038;referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL</a></p>
<p>Thanks for your work on our behalf. I had to use this way to bring this to your attention since your email address has changed due to your retirement. All the best,<br />
Diane</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36564</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I read about the Comcast that other cable provider look up at Comcast role of business.  The speed thing that basic true; however, it doesn&#039;t effect another the Cable.  If you are conernce about that limited bandwidth issue.  Please contact one of your Cable provider, but I know Time Warner (Roadrunner) and the Comcast default to settle that plan.  However; I know so far is.. ATT, Verison, and the COX haven&#039;t decide to default that bandwidth usage.

Again -- FCC told the Comcast, you can look up at FCC website and say that should fairshare 400GB.  It fair enough to use 400GB due average of usage to use videophone and the computer such as internet website surf.  350GB to 450GB expect for home owner business, probably double which they should specific on customer.

One negative thing that our kids use download the music that count meter, even email or chatting on AIM that count.

I think it is crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I read about the Comcast that other cable provider look up at Comcast role of business.  The speed thing that basic true; however, it doesn&#8217;t effect another the Cable.  If you are conernce about that limited bandwidth issue.  Please contact one of your Cable provider, but I know Time Warner (Roadrunner) and the Comcast default to settle that plan.  However; I know so far is.. ATT, Verison, and the COX haven&#8217;t decide to default that bandwidth usage.</p>
<p>Again &#8212; FCC told the Comcast, you can look up at FCC website and say that should fairshare 400GB.  It fair enough to use 400GB due average of usage to use videophone and the computer such as internet website surf.  350GB to 450GB expect for home owner business, probably double which they should specific on customer.</p>
<p>One negative thing that our kids use download the music that count meter, even email or chatting on AIM that count.</p>
<p>I think it is crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36387</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondering,

Good question.   A few VRS providers seem to think so.  My interpretation of the regulation says no.   

I understand that they have &quot;kickback&quot; by agreement (I would like to know if it is verbal or text contract ;-) where marketing service that is not part of VRS provider &quot;promise&quot; to use that VRS provider in return for kickback of $1 per min.    

We&#039;ll explore all this later...

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering,</p>
<p>Good question.   A few VRS providers seem to think so.  My interpretation of the regulation says no.   </p>
<p>I understand that they have &#8220;kickback&#8221; by agreement (I would like to know if it is verbal or text contract <img src='http://www.edsalert.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  where marketing service that is not part of VRS provider &#8220;promise&#8221; to use that VRS provider in return for kickback of $1 per min.    </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll explore all this later&#8230;</p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: wondering</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36386</link>
		<dc:creator>wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Or for that matter those of VRS providers who employ deaf/hoh to make VRS &gt;calls to rack up VRS minutes? Or those deaf/hoh organizations who sign up &gt;with VRS providers and then rack up VRS minutes to get their funds?

Sure would like to know more about this...  is it ok for VRS to use a marketing firm staffed by deaf people using that VRS (kinda of a kickback practice) to make VRS calls all day to hearing aid clinics/ hospitals etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Or for that matter those of VRS providers who employ deaf/hoh to make VRS &gt;calls to rack up VRS minutes? Or those deaf/hoh organizations who sign up &gt;with VRS providers and then rack up VRS minutes to get their funds?</p>
<p>Sure would like to know more about this&#8230;  is it ok for VRS to use a marketing firm staffed by deaf people using that VRS (kinda of a kickback practice) to make VRS calls all day to hearing aid clinics/ hospitals etc?</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

I find your last comment intriguing.  We Americans are now saying we&#039;re sick of rest of world taking over America.   In every motel/hotel especially in the rural areas are owned by non-American (India, Thailand, etc).   Convenient gas stores are mostly owned by non-American (Arabs).  Even the large corporations, although in past were owned by Americans, are now owned by non-American (Japan, Korea, and even China in its recent purchase of IBM products).    Most of the stock markets in the USA are owned by non-Americans close to 40% or at least something like that.  The support service in many America companies use non-America persons. Even one of the Internet Relay service in USA is handled by non-America (Canada).   I can go on and on...

The point is you may see American brand-name everywhere in Europe, but likely it is owned by a non-American corporation.   

Cheers...

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>I find your last comment intriguing.  We Americans are now saying we&#8217;re sick of rest of world taking over America.   In every motel/hotel especially in the rural areas are owned by non-American (India, Thailand, etc).   Convenient gas stores are mostly owned by non-American (Arabs).  Even the large corporations, although in past were owned by Americans, are now owned by non-American (Japan, Korea, and even China in its recent purchase of IBM products).    Most of the stock markets in the USA are owned by non-Americans close to 40% or at least something like that.  The support service in many America companies use non-America persons. Even one of the Internet Relay service in USA is handled by non-America (Canada).   I can go on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>The point is you may see American brand-name everywhere in Europe, but likely it is owned by a non-American corporation.   </p>
<p>Cheers&#8230;</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36383</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JK-II,

Your comment.  I thought the same, yet a few VRS providers are doing that now.  I understand a few people and VRS providers ALREADY have filed ex-parte complaints to the FCC on that.  

So the eyes are on the FCC on these.  What is the FCC doing about that?  So far nothing.      

I hope to explore this in the future edsalert.com and see what y&#039;all think of that.   I already did that, but plan to do again since many of you have become more knowledgeable on the FCC regulations.

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JK-II,</p>
<p>Your comment.  I thought the same, yet a few VRS providers are doing that now.  I understand a few people and VRS providers ALREADY have filed ex-parte complaints to the FCC on that.  </p>
<p>So the eyes are on the FCC on these.  What is the FCC doing about that?  So far nothing.      </p>
<p>I hope to explore this in the future edsalert.com and see what y&#8217;all think of that.   I already did that, but plan to do again since many of you have become more knowledgeable on the FCC regulations.</p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36382</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments, folks!  

A few clarifications:   VRS or VP does use Internet.   Video conference calls DO gobble lot of usage that Internet Providers wince at.  
Although, it would be interesting to actually measure how much video conference takes up, say in one hour.  

On the Comcast letter; it is same as what Brian Morace commented above.  In the future, I&#039;ll try converting either to pdf or txt format.    

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments, folks!  </p>
<p>A few clarifications:   VRS or VP does use Internet.   Video conference calls DO gobble lot of usage that Internet Providers wince at.<br />
Although, it would be interesting to actually measure how much video conference takes up, say in one hour.  </p>
<p>On the Comcast letter; it is same as what Brian Morace commented above.  In the future, I&#8217;ll try converting either to pdf or txt format.    </p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: KVP</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36377</link>
		<dc:creator>KVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed many deafies use internet all day and night long. I know because I keep seeing their names on my AIM buddy list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed many deafies use internet all day and night long. I know because I keep seeing their names on my AIM buddy list.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36376</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared&#039;s most likely correct on that one. A good downloading session via BitTorrent can do it unless you limit the download speed. Movies can range from 700 megs to 4-7 gigs all the way to 25 gigs. I occasionally download a live OS DVD like Knoppix which is freeware, and is about 2-3 gigs. It can take a couple hours to download.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared&#8217;s most likely correct on that one. A good downloading session via BitTorrent can do it unless you limit the download speed. Movies can range from 700 megs to 4-7 gigs all the way to 25 gigs. I occasionally download a live OS DVD like Knoppix which is freeware, and is about 2-3 gigs. It can take a couple hours to download.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/09/23/meter-for-internet-use/comment-page-1/#comment-36371</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To hit the 250GB monthly limit, you would have to leave it on a VRS call almost 24/hours a day, everyday.

I suspect this deaf user was downloading many other files, in addition to VRS calls, which triggered this email from Comcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To hit the 250GB monthly limit, you would have to leave it on a VRS call almost 24/hours a day, everyday.</p>
<p>I suspect this deaf user was downloading many other files, in addition to VRS calls, which triggered this email from Comcast.</p>
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