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	<title>Comments on: FCC PN on SorensonVRS&#8217;s Request for Limited Waiver on &#8220;Proxy&#8221; NBRS</title>
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		<title>By: T. B.</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/10/20/fcc-pn-on-sorensonvrss-request-for-limited-waiver-on-proxy-nbrs/comment-page-1/#comment-37352</link>
		<dc:creator>T. B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Guys

I think FCC should let any VRS company to extend 1 year for transition from &quot;proxy number&quot; to &quot;real number&quot;.  It is not because of VRS Company, it is because of customers.  It is not my point that they already knew about it.   

I am sure most of customers are not aware of and do not follow up with FCC on 10 digits number.  Also I am sure majority of the customers will resist the idea of 10 digits number because it is new to them.   They may not be comfortable with new system, which they used to old system.  

Again, any VRS company will need one year to complete convince each customer to change over from &quot;proxy number&quot; to &quot;real number&quot;.

For deaf business, they will need one year of transition, too.  They really need that for sure.

For myself, I am little of both.

T. B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Guys</p>
<p>I think FCC should let any VRS company to extend 1 year for transition from &#8220;proxy number&#8221; to &#8220;real number&#8221;.  It is not because of VRS Company, it is because of customers.  It is not my point that they already knew about it.   </p>
<p>I am sure most of customers are not aware of and do not follow up with FCC on 10 digits number.  Also I am sure majority of the customers will resist the idea of 10 digits number because it is new to them.   They may not be comfortable with new system, which they used to old system.  </p>
<p>Again, any VRS company will need one year to complete convince each customer to change over from &#8220;proxy number&#8221; to &#8220;real number&#8221;.</p>
<p>For deaf business, they will need one year of transition, too.  They really need that for sure.</p>
<p>For myself, I am little of both.</p>
<p>T. B.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

SorensonVRS is in VRS industry to make money and they will use whatever business tactic to make it profitable.   Unfortunately, I can say the same for ALL of VRS providers.    

However, I think that with constant feedback from consumers over long haul, then hopefully VRS industry will learn to accomodate the needs of VRS users and meet most of what the consumers want.

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>SorensonVRS is in VRS industry to make money and they will use whatever business tactic to make it profitable.   Unfortunately, I can say the same for ALL of VRS providers.    </p>
<p>However, I think that with constant feedback from consumers over long haul, then hopefully VRS industry will learn to accomodate the needs of VRS users and meet most of what the consumers want.</p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed B</p>
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		<title>By: SorensonVRS?s request for limited waiver on proxy numbers. - AllDeaf.com</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/10/20/fcc-pn-on-sorensonvrss-request-for-limited-waiver-on-proxy-nbrs/comment-page-1/#comment-37259</link>
		<dc:creator>SorensonVRS?s request for limited waiver on proxy numbers. - AllDeaf.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] request for limited waiver on proxy numbers.      Ed&#8217;s Telecom Alert &#187; FCC PN on SorensonVRS&#8217;s Request for Limited Waiver on &#8220;P...  I oppose that SorensonVRS is asking the FCC to allow one year of using proxy numbers till December [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] request for limited waiver on proxy numbers.      Ed&#8217;s Telecom Alert &#187; FCC PN on SorensonVRS&#8217;s Request for Limited Waiver on &#8220;P&#8230;  I oppose that SorensonVRS is asking the FCC to allow one year of using proxy numbers till December [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes sense... I am small business owner. So a lot deaf have my proxy number. I need them to be able to access to my business card with proxy number that i have given out in last two years.

Its like Cingular gave us time to give out new ATT email instead of using old cingular email. Joecool@cingular.blackberry.net point to joecool@att.blackberry.net for a period then cut off. Same process of transition. No cold turkey.

At least they are still following FCC ruling about adapt 10 digit to a device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes sense&#8230; I am small business owner. So a lot deaf have my proxy number. I need them to be able to access to my business card with proxy number that i have given out in last two years.</p>
<p>Its like Cingular gave us time to give out new ATT email instead of using old cingular email. <a href="mailto:Joecool@cingular.blackberry.net">Joecool@cingular.blackberry.net</a> point to <a href="mailto:joecool@att.blackberry.net">joecool@att.blackberry.net</a> for a period then cut off. Same process of transition. No cold turkey.</p>
<p>At least they are still following FCC ruling about adapt 10 digit to a device.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2008/10/20/fcc-pn-on-sorensonvrss-request-for-limited-waiver-on-proxy-nbrs/comment-page-1/#comment-37240</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking for some idea and stumble upon your posting :) decide to wish you Thanks. Eugene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for some idea and stumble upon your posting <img src='http://www.edsalert.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  decide to wish you Thanks. Eugene</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful, guys.  Keep them respectful.   

I think clarification is needed.   The 10 digit phone numbers that several VRS providers claim to be &quot;real&quot; numbers.   These numbers are real (that is, from a phone company, not made up ph number out of clear blue sky), but these numbers are not in the system (NeuStar who is the centralized number database coordinator) YET.  What do I mean by that?   Can these &quot;real&quot; numbers call from HOVRS to VP-200 (vp to vp)?   No, not yet.  That will happen - supposedly - before Dec 31, 2008.  So in my opinion, these &quot;real&quot; numbers are not in the &quot;system&quot; of which the FCC mandated to happen yet.   These numbers have not passed the &quot;acid&quot; test yet.   

What I am uncertain is will these &quot;real&quot; numbers claimed by the VRS providers ultimately become part of the NeuStar system?   From what I could understand, they will be, but I am not sure.   

VRS providers, care to clarify that?

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful, guys.  Keep them respectful.   </p>
<p>I think clarification is needed.   The 10 digit phone numbers that several VRS providers claim to be &#8220;real&#8221; numbers.   These numbers are real (that is, from a phone company, not made up ph number out of clear blue sky), but these numbers are not in the system (NeuStar who is the centralized number database coordinator) YET.  What do I mean by that?   Can these &#8220;real&#8221; numbers call from HOVRS to VP-200 (vp to vp)?   No, not yet.  That will happen &#8211; supposedly &#8211; before Dec 31, 2008.  So in my opinion, these &#8220;real&#8221; numbers are not in the &#8220;system&#8221; of which the FCC mandated to happen yet.   These numbers have not passed the &#8220;acid&#8221; test yet.   </p>
<p>What I am uncertain is will these &#8220;real&#8221; numbers claimed by the VRS providers ultimately become part of the NeuStar system?   From what I could understand, they will be, but I am not sure.   </p>
<p>VRS providers, care to clarify that?</p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: chill</title>
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		<dc:creator>chill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys should chill out...you people get free vps...from who? take a moment and think about that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys should chill out&#8230;you people get free vps&#8230;from who? take a moment and think about that</p>
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		<title>By: J.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fair to grant Sorenson an one year window to phase out their proxy numbers, as long as they actually do it and do not fight for an extension or something. After all, Sorenson has A LOT of proxy numbers to phase out. It still  takes a while to do those things even if the technology is readily available.

The reasons for the argument against granting the waiver seem to stem from Sorenson&#039;s aggressive protection of its market share. Sorenson is a normal corporation who will go out of its way to protect its market share. Free enterprise...I say...

Let em&#039; have an extra year, but make it clear that this is it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fair to grant Sorenson an one year window to phase out their proxy numbers, as long as they actually do it and do not fight for an extension or something. After all, Sorenson has A LOT of proxy numbers to phase out. It still  takes a while to do those things even if the technology is readily available.</p>
<p>The reasons for the argument against granting the waiver seem to stem from Sorenson&#8217;s aggressive protection of its market share. Sorenson is a normal corporation who will go out of its way to protect its market share. Free enterprise&#8230;I say&#8230;</p>
<p>Let em&#8217; have an extra year, but make it clear that this is it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Peirson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To let you know that Sorenson VRS already started out with 10 digit numbers. It much better. I don&#039;t even understand why everyone pick on Sorenson VRS.

As in my opinion, if that Videophone made by Sorenson, they should use sorenson VRS, not different VRS because it makes by Sorenson. 

That is why CSDVRS and HOVRS and Viable had their own. I think people should not use like hovrs.tv and csdvrs.tv on &quot;Sorenson VRS VP-200&quot; 

It is a good example. Sony and Apple. Both did not put like sony.tv on apple or apple.tv on sony. because they can&#039;t it cause its by made. Once Videophone is under sorenson. then should use Sorenson.

but honestly, i know how deaf people are. they tend to complain and whine. Everyone tends to put a negative.

but to be honest with you, I do not like local number because I already have spoke with my cable company. They are telling me that they&#039;re aware of local number so they&#039;re working on it to increase the price for using internet or might will charge like &quot;Local Number and use of internet.

So that is why soreson is trying to save people&#039;s neck because they know it will be charge on everyone from the internet. so I promise you that cable will increase price on it because of local number. no discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To let you know that Sorenson VRS already started out with 10 digit numbers. It much better. I don&#8217;t even understand why everyone pick on Sorenson VRS.</p>
<p>As in my opinion, if that Videophone made by Sorenson, they should use sorenson VRS, not different VRS because it makes by Sorenson. </p>
<p>That is why CSDVRS and HOVRS and Viable had their own. I think people should not use like hovrs.tv and csdvrs.tv on &#8220;Sorenson VRS VP-200&#8243; </p>
<p>It is a good example. Sony and Apple. Both did not put like sony.tv on apple or apple.tv on sony. because they can&#8217;t it cause its by made. Once Videophone is under sorenson. then should use Sorenson.</p>
<p>but honestly, i know how deaf people are. they tend to complain and whine. Everyone tends to put a negative.</p>
<p>but to be honest with you, I do not like local number because I already have spoke with my cable company. They are telling me that they&#8217;re aware of local number so they&#8217;re working on it to increase the price for using internet or might will charge like &#8220;Local Number and use of internet.</p>
<p>So that is why soreson is trying to save people&#8217;s neck because they know it will be charge on everyone from the internet. so I promise you that cable will increase price on it because of local number. no discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks,

I appreciate the comments and they&#039;re revealing.  Keep them coming.   I believe most - if not all - of VRS providers as well as the decision-makers, shakers and movers read these comments as well based on feedbacks I&#039;ve received from them in the past.  Hopefully they will take a pause and reflect on the comments.   

I&#039;m glad most of these comments were based on facts.   A couple I scratched my head, though.   

FYI: I may block any comments that backstab invididual persons if I thought they were inappropriate.   I will not block negative comments to any VRS providers, but make damn sure they&#039;re based on facts or actual events.  

Again, thanks for taking time to comment; they&#039;re very much appreciated. 

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,</p>
<p>I appreciate the comments and they&#8217;re revealing.  Keep them coming.   I believe most &#8211; if not all &#8211; of VRS providers as well as the decision-makers, shakers and movers read these comments as well based on feedbacks I&#8217;ve received from them in the past.  Hopefully they will take a pause and reflect on the comments.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad most of these comments were based on facts.   A couple I scratched my head, though.   </p>
<p>FYI: I may block any comments that backstab invididual persons if I thought they were inappropriate.   I will not block negative comments to any VRS providers, but make damn sure they&#8217;re based on facts or actual events.  </p>
<p>Again, thanks for taking time to comment; they&#8217;re very much appreciated. </p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed B</p>
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