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	<title>Comments on: Wow &#8211; Firing Interpreters and Closing One VRS Center</title>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Sorenson Video Interpreter and in our call center we are definitely NOT encouraged to process calls between two parties from Canada. Sometimes it happens by accident, but personally I&#039;d never do it knowingly. Unfortunately, there are people with &quot;loose&quot; ethics in every field and Sorenson does what it can to weed them out.  Perhaps shady practices are going on in other call centers, but not here, to my knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Sorenson Video Interpreter and in our call center we are definitely NOT encouraged to process calls between two parties from Canada. Sometimes it happens by accident, but personally I&#8217;d never do it knowingly. Unfortunately, there are people with &#8220;loose&#8221; ethics in every field and Sorenson does what it can to weed them out.  Perhaps shady practices are going on in other call centers, but not here, to my knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Perkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is taxpayer money used to finance this? money should come direct from users of service. not all use VRS so why should all pay for it? and if government money to be used then should be fixed rate to stop this scam and government should check more but they are too lazy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is taxpayer money used to finance this? money should come direct from users of service. not all use VRS so why should all pay for it? and if government money to be used then should be fixed rate to stop this scam and government should check more but they are too lazy</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy, Why don&#039;t you ask VRS providers directly and see what they say? Unfortunately, I can&#039;t reveal my sources, but they happened. I would not post them if they were not true. It can be a libel lawsuit against me if they were not true. Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy, Why don&#8217;t you ask VRS providers directly and see what they say? Unfortunately, I can&#8217;t reveal my sources, but they happened. I would not post them if they were not true. It can be a libel lawsuit against me if they were not true. Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because there are no links for us to check whether this story is true, I strongly doubt this.  Can you present proof as to whether this really did happen?  Can you point me to where you got the information? 

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because there are no links for us to check whether this story is true, I strongly doubt this.  Can you present proof as to whether this really did happen?  Can you point me to where you got the information? </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brenda,

They&#039;re true, but I agree with you.  Best from VRS providers themselves.   

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda,</p>
<p>They&#8217;re true, but I agree with you.  Best from VRS providers themselves.   </p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure if Ed&#039;s story is true. I prefer to hear from Sorenson themselves. It is possible that Sorenson don&#039;t want to share their confidentiality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if Ed&#8217;s story is true. I prefer to hear from Sorenson themselves. It is possible that Sorenson don&#8217;t want to share their confidentiality.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear &quot;Can I have a quick soap box moment?&quot;

Fraudelent or unethical calls?   One example is where VI would bring a laptop and make call to himself/herself (easy to find out IP address of the particular station).   There are several other imaginative ways to cheat, and I&#039;m not sure I want to list them to give VIs an idea   ;-]  I chose laptop because it is easy to spot VI lugging around laptop.   

To have a group monitor VRS treating VIs.   That&#039;s is probably not possible simply because VRS Providers are companies and they control the system.  They will not let any independents outside of VRS provider monitor them.  Could the FCC do that?  Not even that.   Also it may infringe upon privacy issues of VRS call.   

We may simply just have to either trust VRS provider or VIs continue express their concerns by sending emails to the FCC or posting comments to websites such as this one?

And, thank YOU for ur soap box comments.

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8220;Can I have a quick soap box moment?&#8221;</p>
<p>Fraudelent or unethical calls?   One example is where VI would bring a laptop and make call to himself/herself (easy to find out IP address of the particular station).   There are several other imaginative ways to cheat, and I&#8217;m not sure I want to list them to give VIs an idea   ;-]  I chose laptop because it is easy to spot VI lugging around laptop.   </p>
<p>To have a group monitor VRS treating VIs.   That&#8217;s is probably not possible simply because VRS Providers are companies and they control the system.  They will not let any independents outside of VRS provider monitor them.  Could the FCC do that?  Not even that.   Also it may infringe upon privacy issues of VRS call.   </p>
<p>We may simply just have to either trust VRS provider or VIs continue express their concerns by sending emails to the FCC or posting comments to websites such as this one?</p>
<p>And, thank YOU for ur soap box comments.</p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Can I have a quick soap box moment?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Can I have a quick soap box moment?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the discussion on this matter. I am a Video Interpreter in the North East, and I have been very uneasy about some of the calls we&#039;ve processed in the past. The calls I have felt have been of some ethical conflict are fortunately not as frequent any longer. I want to make sure we are all thinking the same thing, so I wonder exactly what is meant when you say fraudulent or unethical calls? Can someone give an example? What calls were the VIs in Austin making that made it so bad to get fired and close the center?

I also like the issues raised (-perhaps more appropriate on a different thread-) about ensuring the rights for good working conditions for interpreters. I very much dislike what I&#039;ve heard about some VRS providers who only stress production, therefore allowing only a 10 minute break per hour of interpreting. This is a clear disregard for standard business practices as set forth and accepted by RID and the majority of the interpreting community, which suggest only 20 to 30 minutes of active interpreting, then 20 to 30 minutes of supporting your teammate while s/he is in the hot seat. This is probably one of the many reasons why VRS interpreting places the most stress (physically, emotionally, and mentally) on interpreters and leads to early burnout, repetitive motion injury, carpal tunnel, vicarious trauma, etc. Since we&#039;re all into working up groups to monitor stuff, why not have a group to monitor how VRS providers are treating their interpreters?

And for those who were asking about the way VRS interpreters handle the time of calls and how they are counted (J.J.), all I can say is this: The VRS Provider I work for has the interpreters computers set up with a program that monitor the duration of the audio portion of the call and the video duration. They are recorded both separately. Video Minutes are recorded when the interpreter is connected with the deaf consumer but not yet connected to the hearing consumer, from getting the number to call all the way through ringing until someone picks up and in between placing calls, and Audio Minutes are recorded when the interpreter is connected with the hearing consumer but not yet connected with the deaf consumer. I was trained to try my best to decrease the time between the deaf caller connecting to me (the interpreter) and me connecting to the hearing caller because FCC will only reimburse minutes where BOTH video and audio minutes are running, in other words, when the two callers are talking to each other. This means VRS minutes are counted when on hold, navigating menus, or anything else where both callers are connected. And the interpreters do not have a on/off switch to start and stop the timer. Hope that answers some questions on that. I can&#039;t say it&#039;s a standard among all VRS providers, as equipment and training may vary, but I&#039;m sure FCC only reimburses for minutes when both calls are connected.

As far as quality control, that seems to be up to each individual call center managers and trainers. From time to time my supervisor will come sit next to me to see how the call is being processed, and gives me some pointers as needed. They do, of course, encourage me to process call faster and make more VRS minutes, but if I&#039;ve been interpreting for 30 minutes, I&#039;ll be given a replacement and a break with no one breathing down my neck to get right back to work after 10 minutes are up. That way the quality of my interpreting doesn&#039;t suffer.

Hope that answers some questions, and I look forward to having mine answered soon. Thanks so much to everyone supporting this nice exchange of information and ideas, and thanks for letting me have a moment on my soapbox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the discussion on this matter. I am a Video Interpreter in the North East, and I have been very uneasy about some of the calls we&#8217;ve processed in the past. The calls I have felt have been of some ethical conflict are fortunately not as frequent any longer. I want to make sure we are all thinking the same thing, so I wonder exactly what is meant when you say fraudulent or unethical calls? Can someone give an example? What calls were the VIs in Austin making that made it so bad to get fired and close the center?</p>
<p>I also like the issues raised (-perhaps more appropriate on a different thread-) about ensuring the rights for good working conditions for interpreters. I very much dislike what I&#8217;ve heard about some VRS providers who only stress production, therefore allowing only a 10 minute break per hour of interpreting. This is a clear disregard for standard business practices as set forth and accepted by RID and the majority of the interpreting community, which suggest only 20 to 30 minutes of active interpreting, then 20 to 30 minutes of supporting your teammate while s/he is in the hot seat. This is probably one of the many reasons why VRS interpreting places the most stress (physically, emotionally, and mentally) on interpreters and leads to early burnout, repetitive motion injury, carpal tunnel, vicarious trauma, etc. Since we&#8217;re all into working up groups to monitor stuff, why not have a group to monitor how VRS providers are treating their interpreters?</p>
<p>And for those who were asking about the way VRS interpreters handle the time of calls and how they are counted (J.J.), all I can say is this: The VRS Provider I work for has the interpreters computers set up with a program that monitor the duration of the audio portion of the call and the video duration. They are recorded both separately. Video Minutes are recorded when the interpreter is connected with the deaf consumer but not yet connected to the hearing consumer, from getting the number to call all the way through ringing until someone picks up and in between placing calls, and Audio Minutes are recorded when the interpreter is connected with the hearing consumer but not yet connected with the deaf consumer. I was trained to try my best to decrease the time between the deaf caller connecting to me (the interpreter) and me connecting to the hearing caller because FCC will only reimburse minutes where BOTH video and audio minutes are running, in other words, when the two callers are talking to each other. This means VRS minutes are counted when on hold, navigating menus, or anything else where both callers are connected. And the interpreters do not have a on/off switch to start and stop the timer. Hope that answers some questions on that. I can&#8217;t say it&#8217;s a standard among all VRS providers, as equipment and training may vary, but I&#8217;m sure FCC only reimburses for minutes when both calls are connected.</p>
<p>As far as quality control, that seems to be up to each individual call center managers and trainers. From time to time my supervisor will come sit next to me to see how the call is being processed, and gives me some pointers as needed. They do, of course, encourage me to process call faster and make more VRS minutes, but if I&#8217;ve been interpreting for 30 minutes, I&#8217;ll be given a replacement and a break with no one breathing down my neck to get right back to work after 10 minutes are up. That way the quality of my interpreting doesn&#8217;t suffer.</p>
<p>Hope that answers some questions, and I look forward to having mine answered soon. Thanks so much to everyone supporting this nice exchange of information and ideas, and thanks for letting me have a moment on my soapbox!</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
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		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerned About Ethics,

That is a recurring question.  Should RID be involved in this; should VRS provider approach RID to eke out punishment or tear up the RID certification if they are certified with RID?   

Possible problem is that these video interpreters were hired as VRS employee, not as a certified interpreter or as a RID certified Interpreter.   They became VI solely based on VRS provider&#039;s analysis of the VIs (I think with one or maybe two exception where VRS providers actually hired persons to be VI only if they are certified). 

So this begs the question.   Should the FCC require certified interpreters to be VI instead of allowing VRS providers determine the quality of Interpreters to become VI?   

Truth to be told, I have mixed feelings about that.  If require certified, I would not be surprised if sizable percentage of VIs would be let go, and create a real hardship for VRS providers to meet the speed answer.  VRS would be perpetually busy and we don&#039;t want that.  

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerned About Ethics,</p>
<p>That is a recurring question.  Should RID be involved in this; should VRS provider approach RID to eke out punishment or tear up the RID certification if they are certified with RID?   </p>
<p>Possible problem is that these video interpreters were hired as VRS employee, not as a certified interpreter or as a RID certified Interpreter.   They became VI solely based on VRS provider&#8217;s analysis of the VIs (I think with one or maybe two exception where VRS providers actually hired persons to be VI only if they are certified). </p>
<p>So this begs the question.   Should the FCC require certified interpreters to be VI instead of allowing VRS providers determine the quality of Interpreters to become VI?   </p>
<p>Truth to be told, I have mixed feelings about that.  If require certified, I would not be surprised if sizable percentage of VIs would be let go, and create a real hardship for VRS providers to meet the speed answer.  VRS would be perpetually busy and we don&#8217;t want that.  </p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned about ethics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned about ethics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Viable and Sorenson if they did step up without FCC intervention.  It shows integrity to do the right thing without being asked to do it.

I would like to see those interpreters involved pay the appropriate penalties. Unfortunately, RID&#039;s grievance system is based on reconciliation, not punishment. Have they ever taken away a certification (with the exception of the interpreter who let the certificaiton test get out)? RID&#039;s history has been to try and get the two parties to kiss and make up. Hopefully this is because there have not been serious breaches in ethics, but one has to wonder about the past 40 years whether or not that has really been the case.

This is a time when punishment for those who are guilty for such a serious breach should be instituted; if either company does file a grievance, hopefully RID will step up and do the right thing. If not, their Code of Conduct is pointless and unenforceable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Viable and Sorenson if they did step up without FCC intervention.  It shows integrity to do the right thing without being asked to do it.</p>
<p>I would like to see those interpreters involved pay the appropriate penalties. Unfortunately, RID&#8217;s grievance system is based on reconciliation, not punishment. Have they ever taken away a certification (with the exception of the interpreter who let the certificaiton test get out)? RID&#8217;s history has been to try and get the two parties to kiss and make up. Hopefully this is because there have not been serious breaches in ethics, but one has to wonder about the past 40 years whether or not that has really been the case.</p>
<p>This is a time when punishment for those who are guilty for such a serious breach should be instituted; if either company does file a grievance, hopefully RID will step up and do the right thing. If not, their Code of Conduct is pointless and unenforceable.</p>
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