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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-66275</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terpgirl,

Good remarks you made.  I like the way you said it &quot;pool of interpreters&quot;.   In other words, we need to be more sensitive to interpreters&#039; needs.  Right on!  

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terpgirl,</p>
<p>Good remarks you made.  I like the way you said it &#8220;pool of interpreters&#8221;.   In other words, we need to be more sensitive to interpreters&#8217; needs.  Right on!  </p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Terpgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-66246</link>
		<dc:creator>Terpgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I do agree with what they&#039;re saying about oversight and making sure that anyone providing VRS services must comply, I think that the reasoning behind requiring 20,000 minutes or more for each company is flawed.  Their numbers may be right, but if you close down the small shops, those interpreters will not necessarily flock to the big box companies.  Many of them are not there because they prefer not to be, or because they once were and do not like it.  Because they&#039;re interpreters, they can choose their settings, and can always go back into the community and interpret there full time.  Go America&#039;s mistake here is that they are seeing us as a pool of VRS interpreters, when, in fact, we are a pool of interpreters.  Some of us do VRS, some don&#039;t, some do it part time, some do it for awhile, and others do it forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I do agree with what they&#8217;re saying about oversight and making sure that anyone providing VRS services must comply, I think that the reasoning behind requiring 20,000 minutes or more for each company is flawed.  Their numbers may be right, but if you close down the small shops, those interpreters will not necessarily flock to the big box companies.  Many of them are not there because they prefer not to be, or because they once were and do not like it.  Because they&#8217;re interpreters, they can choose their settings, and can always go back into the community and interpret there full time.  Go America&#8217;s mistake here is that they are seeing us as a pool of VRS interpreters, when, in fact, we are a pool of interpreters.  Some of us do VRS, some don&#8217;t, some do it part time, some do it for awhile, and others do it forever.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-62759</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CR,

I agree with you what you are trying to say.  It boils down to VRS providers - either as certified VRS provider, or riding on other VRS provider - do the requirements.   Right now the requirements are minimal.   FCC needs to increase requirements to the point where burden of accountability; i.e. consumer driven, ethical, etc. on VRS providers.

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CR,</p>
<p>I agree with you what you are trying to say.  It boils down to VRS providers &#8211; either as certified VRS provider, or riding on other VRS provider &#8211; do the requirements.   Right now the requirements are minimal.   FCC needs to increase requirements to the point where burden of accountability; i.e. consumer driven, ethical, etc. on VRS providers.</p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-62757</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I had been out of town doing business work; was in MD and then NYC.  Whirlwind activities.  Sorry not to respond sooner.

A few ways to do that:  

For existing TRS issue that needs comment; that is, 30 days have not expired yet, go to 

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload/   

scroll down to Ten-digit numbering for Internet-based TRS and click on continue and go thru process..this one is fairly easy.  

The more complicated one is this one.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/

And finally the simplest way is send email:  fccinfo@fcc.gov   Be sure to include docket number otherwise they won&#039;t know.  Docket 03-123 and then cite Ten Digit Phone numbering system if that is what you want to comment on.   The last one can be for ex-parte as well (ex-parte means deadline to comment has expired or can be for any telecomm issues that are not on the record).  

Good luck...

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I had been out of town doing business work; was in MD and then NYC.  Whirlwind activities.  Sorry not to respond sooner.</p>
<p>A few ways to do that:  </p>
<p>For existing TRS issue that needs comment; that is, 30 days have not expired yet, go to </p>
<p><a href="http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload/" rel="nofollow">http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload/</a>   </p>
<p>scroll down to Ten-digit numbering for Internet-based TRS and click on continue and go thru process..this one is fairly easy.  </p>
<p>The more complicated one is this one.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/</a></p>
<p>And finally the simplest way is send email:  <a href="mailto:fccinfo@fcc.gov">fccinfo@fcc.gov</a>   Be sure to include docket number otherwise they won&#8217;t know.  Docket 03-123 and then cite Ten Digit Phone numbering system if that is what you want to comment on.   The last one can be for ex-parte as well (ex-parte means deadline to comment has expired or can be for any telecomm issues that are not on the record).  </p>
<p>Good luck&#8230;</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-62753</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David B,

Here are the links for Healinc Telecomm.

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_6xg09m  See the annual sales.  Very small.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2809764/Notice-Common-carrier-services-Interstate-Telecommunications-Relay-Service-Fund-video-relay-service-provider-eligibility-certification  

The above certifies Healinc Telecomm as VRS provider.  

If FCC certifies based on at least one VRS center, has platform, understands deaf/hoh communities, etc., very likely this company may not be approved.

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David B,</p>
<p>Here are the links for Healinc Telecomm.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_6xg09m" rel="nofollow">http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_6xg09m</a>  See the annual sales.  Very small.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/2809764/Notice-Common-carrier-services-Interstate-Telecommunications-Relay-Service-Fund-video-relay-service-provider-eligibility-certification" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/2809764/Notice-Common-carrier-services-Interstate-Telecommunications-Relay-Service-Fund-video-relay-service-provider-eligibility-certification</a>  </p>
<p>The above certifies Healinc Telecomm as VRS provider.  </p>
<p>If FCC certifies based on at least one VRS center, has platform, understands deaf/hoh communities, etc., very likely this company may not be approved.</p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-62414</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be my pleasure to email FCC. Can you give me FCC&#039;s email addy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be my pleasure to email FCC. Can you give me FCC&#8217;s email addy.</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-62125</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commentators,

You do me proud.  Your thoughts are well thought out and to the point.  

I sincerely hope VRS providers are reading all these comments and do a thorough internal analysis of their practices.   I do know a few FCC folks are reading these comments as well.   However, your thoughts as expressed should also be expressed to the FCC by sending them email as it will make an impact as well.  

eyes open &amp; thumbs up,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commentators,</p>
<p>You do me proud.  Your thoughts are well thought out and to the point.  </p>
<p>I sincerely hope VRS providers are reading all these comments and do a thorough internal analysis of their practices.   I do know a few FCC folks are reading these comments as well.   However, your thoughts as expressed should also be expressed to the FCC by sending them email as it will make an impact as well.  </p>
<p>eyes open &#038; thumbs up,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-61915</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that GA is trying to block competitions which take away new VRS companies the time to grow and to market themself.  GA would make themself an public enemy like Sorenson went through being an public enemy.  I feel GA has been dirty for a while now.  There is no need to required any VRS companies to meet 20K VRS minutues required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that GA is trying to block competitions which take away new VRS companies the time to grow and to market themself.  GA would make themself an public enemy like Sorenson went through being an public enemy.  I feel GA has been dirty for a while now.  There is no need to required any VRS companies to meet 20K VRS minutues required.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-61835</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny that GA seeks to limit poor service by limiting compitition. Even though the FCC is paying for all of the minutes, the Deaf/HoH are the real customers. As a deaf customer I know that if I experience on a continous basis the poor quality of service that GA claims that the existing rules promote, I will no longer use the services of that particular VRS. If enough Deaf/HoH have the same feeling, then that poor performing VRS company will go out of business just like everything else in a capitalist society.But this will not happen if there is a reduction in competition.

I am also wondering who GA is trying to hurt here. The small startups or the bigger companies that contract on a regular basis with these smaller companies. I think there are some VRS companies that are notorious for contracting out their VRS services to smaller local entities. These larger companies would also be hurt in a ruling like this. 

The whole goal of reducing the minutes usage is to reduce the cost to taxpayers. If FCC had to regulate and certify every little start up company (there could be literally hundreds out there), how much is it going to cost the FCC in manpower to go and inspect each and every one of these smaller entities. There might be some number crunching necessary to find out which is more cost benificial to the taxpayer.

I work in the transportation industry and in our industry the prime contractors are responsible for the work of the subcontractors. If the subcontractor messes up, it&#039;s the prime contractor that has to pay for the mistake. If the FCC can institute effective rules that penalize the VRS companies recieving funds directly from TRS for the noncompliance of the smaller VRS companies they sign contracts with then this issue will probably be minimized without hurting competition.

In conclusion, I believe that if a VRS company chooses to subcontract their work out to smaller a smaller company the prime VRS company should bear the responsibility of compliance. This will allow smaller VRS companies to gain entry into the marketplace through contracts and keep FCC from being overburdened with making sure that every little VRS startup is playing by the rules. If a VRS company is receiving money directly from the fund then all they have to do is meet the same requirements of all other VRS providers that are recieving funds directly from TRS.  If the VRS company is recieving money through another VRS provider then the VRS provider who is recieving money directly from the fund is responsible for the compliance of that company. I&#039;ve seen it in practice and I think it will well in the VRS industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny that GA seeks to limit poor service by limiting compitition. Even though the FCC is paying for all of the minutes, the Deaf/HoH are the real customers. As a deaf customer I know that if I experience on a continous basis the poor quality of service that GA claims that the existing rules promote, I will no longer use the services of that particular VRS. If enough Deaf/HoH have the same feeling, then that poor performing VRS company will go out of business just like everything else in a capitalist society.But this will not happen if there is a reduction in competition.</p>
<p>I am also wondering who GA is trying to hurt here. The small startups or the bigger companies that contract on a regular basis with these smaller companies. I think there are some VRS companies that are notorious for contracting out their VRS services to smaller local entities. These larger companies would also be hurt in a ruling like this. </p>
<p>The whole goal of reducing the minutes usage is to reduce the cost to taxpayers. If FCC had to regulate and certify every little start up company (there could be literally hundreds out there), how much is it going to cost the FCC in manpower to go and inspect each and every one of these smaller entities. There might be some number crunching necessary to find out which is more cost benificial to the taxpayer.</p>
<p>I work in the transportation industry and in our industry the prime contractors are responsible for the work of the subcontractors. If the subcontractor messes up, it&#8217;s the prime contractor that has to pay for the mistake. If the FCC can institute effective rules that penalize the VRS companies recieving funds directly from TRS for the noncompliance of the smaller VRS companies they sign contracts with then this issue will probably be minimized without hurting competition.</p>
<p>In conclusion, I believe that if a VRS company chooses to subcontract their work out to smaller a smaller company the prime VRS company should bear the responsibility of compliance. This will allow smaller VRS companies to gain entry into the marketplace through contracts and keep FCC from being overburdened with making sure that every little VRS startup is playing by the rules. If a VRS company is receiving money directly from the fund then all they have to do is meet the same requirements of all other VRS providers that are recieving funds directly from TRS.  If the VRS company is recieving money through another VRS provider then the VRS provider who is recieving money directly from the fund is responsible for the compliance of that company. I&#8217;ve seen it in practice and I think it will well in the VRS industry.</p>
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		<title>By: May</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/03/28/goamerica-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-61594</link>
		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Well Rounded Interpreter, BIG TIME THANKS FOR CLARIFYING IT TO ME!
After I now understand, I am not for it! 
WHY?? Supposedly the VRS provider gets certification from the FCC, then this provider has some employees to abuse and &quot;get by&quot; until they are re-certificated in 5 yrs!  This part I&#039;m not for it at all!
If the FCC prefers first 3 yrs and then 5 yrs, I would then make a suggestion that FCC add &quot;strict&quot; statement for the VRS providers to follow the rules - 
such as voilate the rule - giving a warning note
 twice     &quot;    &quot;           &quot;        giving a stern warning
thrice     &quot;    &quot;           &quot;        tear the certification and EVEN for the VRS provider losing their license to operate the business...
I had VRI (I&#039;m not going to name the VRI company name and even this operator&#039;s nbr for I already voiced my complaint to the supervisor) we chatted for short while I was put on hold - this opr told (NOT ASK ME A QUESTION - JUST TELL ME AS IT IS!) that ASL is now dying!  
Of course I disconnected right away with angry feeling and re-dialed to make a call ...
That kind of opr I dont like to make calls!!!!!! It makes me having the desire to puke!
It also makes me to wonder - interpreters saying &quot;WHOOPPIE I HAVE A JOB&quot; but their hearts aren&#039;t with us who are deaf/hoh!  That part I hate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Well Rounded Interpreter, BIG TIME THANKS FOR CLARIFYING IT TO ME!<br />
After I now understand, I am not for it!<br />
WHY?? Supposedly the VRS provider gets certification from the FCC, then this provider has some employees to abuse and &#8220;get by&#8221; until they are re-certificated in 5 yrs!  This part I&#8217;m not for it at all!<br />
If the FCC prefers first 3 yrs and then 5 yrs, I would then make a suggestion that FCC add &#8220;strict&#8221; statement for the VRS providers to follow the rules &#8211;<br />
such as voilate the rule &#8211; giving a warning note<br />
 twice     &#8221;    &#8221;           &#8221;        giving a stern warning<br />
thrice     &#8221;    &#8221;           &#8221;        tear the certification and EVEN for the VRS provider losing their license to operate the business&#8230;<br />
I had VRI (I&#8217;m not going to name the VRI company name and even this operator&#8217;s nbr for I already voiced my complaint to the supervisor) we chatted for short while I was put on hold &#8211; this opr told (NOT ASK ME A QUESTION &#8211; JUST TELL ME AS IT IS!) that ASL is now dying!<br />
Of course I disconnected right away with angry feeling and re-dialed to make a call &#8230;<br />
That kind of opr I dont like to make calls!!!!!! It makes me having the desire to puke!<br />
It also makes me to wonder &#8211; interpreters saying &#8220;WHOOPPIE I HAVE A JOB&#8221; but their hearts aren&#8217;t with us who are deaf/hoh!  That part I hate!</p>
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