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		<title>By: Terpgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-66568</link>
		<dc:creator>Terpgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 00:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this, and I was just as shocked as you all were.  As far as I’m concerned, she is guilty of fraud and should be arrested and tried just like any criminal.  That is just my opinion, and I am not a lawyer, but if it isn’t fraud, it’s something else.  Whatever it is, there is a crime, whatever it is called.  RID wouldn’t be able to do nearly as much as the penal system.  I think she should be prosecuted so as to serve as a warning to anyone else who may be thinking of doing something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this, and I was just as shocked as you all were.  As far as I’m concerned, she is guilty of fraud and should be arrested and tried just like any criminal.  That is just my opinion, and I am not a lawyer, but if it isn’t fraud, it’s something else.  Whatever it is, there is a crime, whatever it is called.  RID wouldn’t be able to do nearly as much as the penal system.  I think she should be prosecuted so as to serve as a warning to anyone else who may be thinking of doing something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: May</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-66182</link>
		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Stephen Hardy&#039;s comment &quot;sticky and problematic for interpreters&quot;
Boyee!  My point of view is that an agency should do something about this and even for a company/business know how to handle with the contactor who handles the interpreting service...
My niece (who is an interprer) disagrees with my &quot;POV&quot; for she is aware that there are so many sticky and problematic for &quot;NOT ONLY INTERPRETERS&quot; but also for an agency who wants to make a profit - doesnt give any hoot how excellent an interpreter is or not - not even care how deaf/hoh individual feel comfy with an interpreter&#039;s skill in translating/interpreting....
Boyee it really awakes me up alot!!!!!!
Is there any way we, deaf/hoh people can do sometthing?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Stephen Hardy&#8217;s comment &#8220;sticky and problematic for interpreters&#8221;<br />
Boyee!  My point of view is that an agency should do something about this and even for a company/business know how to handle with the contactor who handles the interpreting service&#8230;<br />
My niece (who is an interprer) disagrees with my &#8220;POV&#8221; for she is aware that there are so many sticky and problematic for &#8220;NOT ONLY INTERPRETERS&#8221; but also for an agency who wants to make a profit &#8211; doesnt give any hoot how excellent an interpreter is or not &#8211; not even care how deaf/hoh individual feel comfy with an interpreter&#8217;s skill in translating/interpreting&#8230;.<br />
Boyee it really awakes me up alot!!!!!!<br />
Is there any way we, deaf/hoh people can do sometthing?????</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-65903</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 05:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryl:

Thank you for your response and it is educational in nature. The issue of being an independent contractor and an employee of an agency raises many issues within the IRS. If one tells a person how to perform and it will be an employee status; on the other hand, if the contractor knew what to do during the assignment is known as an independent contractor. This is so sticky and problematic for intepreters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl:</p>
<p>Thank you for your response and it is educational in nature. The issue of being an independent contractor and an employee of an agency raises many issues within the IRS. If one tells a person how to perform and it will be an employee status; on the other hand, if the contractor knew what to do during the assignment is known as an independent contractor. This is so sticky and problematic for intepreters.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Crouse</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-65869</link>
		<dc:creator>Daryl Crouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;I am curious on what will RID do about this person.&quot;&gt;

Unfortunately Ms. Garner is NOT an RID member &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rid.org/acct-app/index.cfm?action=search.members&amp;FirstName=Gail&amp;LastName=Garner&amp;OrgName=&amp;City=&amp;State=&amp;Zip=&amp;Email=&amp;AreaCode=&amp;Certificates=&amp;Category=&amp;Freelance=&amp;SearchVar=1&quot; title=&quot;(See RID member search result)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; so there is nothing that RID could do about this person.  RID is strictly a membership organization and can only hold its members (regardless of certified, associate, etc... all RID members are expected to follow CPC (Code of Professional Conduct) accountable under the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rid.org/UserFiles/File/pdfs/codeofethics.pdf&quot; title=&quot;CPC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;This is fraud and this so called “interpreter” should not be in the interpreting service provider’s list.&quot;&gt;

It is definitely wrong and it is an example of when organizations, it appears the city hired this person directly, decide to go with &quot;whatever&quot; instead of &quot;accessibility&quot;.  The city could have engaged the caller in a true dialogue about what accommodations they needed.  The ADA encourages that conversation to happen from what I understand.  Through a longer conversation and engaging the Deaf citizen in the process the city probably would have come across hints that this might not be a real request.

Of course, they could have, should have, and probably will now, use interpreters who are certified by RID.  Perfect timing though RID just released some great videos describing the ethical practices grievance system (EPS) in case anyone would like to watch them.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.terplink.com/video/introduction-to-the-ethical&quot; title=&quot;Introduction to the Ethical Practices System&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

(hopefully the embed will work of the first video here)


&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;I also recalled there were so many interpreters who were sent by an agency and after the assignment, the interpreter gives them their own business card to the business and offerring a lower rate than what the agency charges. Does this sound too common?&quot;&gt;

There are a couple issues that come up though in my experience.  If the agency (referral service) treats the interpreter as an independent contractor then the interpreter has every right to advertise their individual services, including giving their own business card.  If the interpreter and the agency have agreed that they will not give out their business card then it probably means the interpreter is not an independent contractor but actually an employee.  

One of the big factors that I&#039;ve learned over the years having owned an interpreting service firm with almost 50 employees (interpreters) is that control and direction can be determinative of that relationship employee or independent contractor.  I have read situations where a state employment development agency/tax department has said that telling someone to not give out their own individual business card but to advertise the business can make the person an employee.

The relevant tenant of the RID CPC is quoted below for easy reference.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Interpreters are expected to conduct their business in a professional manner whether in private practice or in the employ of an agency or other entity. Professional interpreters are entitled to a living wage based on their qualifications and expertise. Interpreters are also entitled to
working conditions conducive to effective service delivery.&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="I am curious on what will RID do about this person.">
<p>Unfortunately Ms. Garner is NOT an RID member <a href="https://www.rid.org/acct-app/index.cfm?action=search.members&amp;FirstName=Gail&amp;LastName=Garner&amp;OrgName=&amp;City=&amp;State=&amp;Zip=&amp;Email=&amp;AreaCode=&amp;Certificates=&amp;Category=&amp;Freelance=&amp;SearchVar=1" title="(See RID member search result)" rel="nofollow"> so there is nothing that RID could do about this person.  RID is strictly a membership organization and can only hold its members (regardless of certified, associate, etc&#8230; all RID members are expected to follow CPC (Code of Professional Conduct) accountable under the </a><a href="http://www.rid.org/UserFiles/File/pdfs/codeofethics.pdf" title="CPC" rel="nofollow">.</p>
<blockquote cite="This is fraud and this so called “interpreter” should not be in the interpreting service provider’s list.">
<p>It is definitely wrong and it is an example of when organizations, it appears the city hired this person directly, decide to go with &#8220;whatever&#8221; instead of &#8220;accessibility&#8221;.  The city could have engaged the caller in a true dialogue about what accommodations they needed.  The ADA encourages that conversation to happen from what I understand.  Through a longer conversation and engaging the Deaf citizen in the process the city probably would have come across hints that this might not be a real request.</p>
<p>Of course, they could have, should have, and probably will now, use interpreters who are certified by RID.  Perfect timing though RID just released some great videos describing the ethical practices grievance system (EPS) in case anyone would like to watch them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.terplink.com/video/introduction-to-the-ethical" title="Introduction to the Ethical Practices System" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>(hopefully the embed will work of the first video here)</p>
<blockquote cite="I also recalled there were so many interpreters who were sent by an agency and after the assignment, the interpreter gives them their own business card to the business and offerring a lower rate than what the agency charges. Does this sound too common?">
<p>There are a couple issues that come up though in my experience.  If the agency (referral service) treats the interpreter as an independent contractor then the interpreter has every right to advertise their individual services, including giving their own business card.  If the interpreter and the agency have agreed that they will not give out their business card then it probably means the interpreter is not an independent contractor but actually an employee.  </p>
<p>One of the big factors that I&#8217;ve learned over the years having owned an interpreting service firm with almost 50 employees (interpreters) is that control and direction can be determinative of that relationship employee or independent contractor.  I have read situations where a state employment development agency/tax department has said that telling someone to not give out their own individual business card but to advertise the business can make the person an employee.</p>
<p>The relevant tenant of the RID CPC is quoted below for easy reference.</p>
<blockquote cite="Interpreters are expected to conduct their business in a professional manner whether in private practice or in the employ of an agency or other entity. Professional interpreters are entitled to a living wage based on their qualifications and expertise. Interpreters are also entitled to<br />
working conditions conducive to effective service delivery."></blockquote>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-65863</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully this is an isolated incident and it stays that way. It is hard to verify that a Deaf or HoH person is attending the meeting. Any system of verification can be defeated when you have enough dishonest people working together and it is easy to ask for so much paperwork for verification that the process fails to be functionally equivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully this is an isolated incident and it stays that way. It is hard to verify that a Deaf or HoH person is attending the meeting. Any system of verification can be defeated when you have enough dishonest people working together and it is easy to ask for so much paperwork for verification that the process fails to be functionally equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: May</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-65849</link>
		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OUCH! It could hurt deaf people who actually need an interpreter and also for the interpreter&#039;s job!
WOW! 
What this company/department should have is to call back to verify that a deaf individual needs an interpreter before making an assignment to get an interpreter....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUCH! It could hurt deaf people who actually need an interpreter and also for the interpreter&#8217;s job!<br />
WOW!<br />
What this company/department should have is to call back to verify that a deaf individual needs an interpreter before making an assignment to get an interpreter&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-65827</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious on what will RID do about this person.

This is fraud and this so called &quot;interpreter&quot; should not be in the interpreting service provider&#039;s list. 

I have heard stories of what interpreter&#039;s had done with Deaf/hard of hearing customers in terms of money, opportunity, information for their own self-benefit. 

I also recalled there were so many interpreters who were sent by an agency and after the assignment, the interpreter gives them their own business card to the business and offerring a lower rate than what the agency charges. Does this sound too common?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious on what will RID do about this person.</p>
<p>This is fraud and this so called &#8220;interpreter&#8221; should not be in the interpreting service provider&#8217;s list. </p>
<p>I have heard stories of what interpreter&#8217;s had done with Deaf/hard of hearing customers in terms of money, opportunity, information for their own self-benefit. </p>
<p>I also recalled there were so many interpreters who were sent by an agency and after the assignment, the interpreter gives them their own business card to the business and offerring a lower rate than what the agency charges. Does this sound too common?</p>
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		<title>By: briansparks</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-65787</link>
		<dc:creator>briansparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we dont black get the things we need for life  and  we need deaf power to run  what  need for outr needs and we to over run the fcc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we dont black get the things we need for life  and  we need deaf power to run  what  need for outr needs and we to over run the fcc</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/04/29/sign-language-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-65784</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a shame! Her arms should be cut off.  No more job for her!! We don&#039;t need people like her!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a shame! Her arms should be cut off.  No more job for her!! We don&#8217;t need people like her!!!</p>
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