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		<title>By: RLM</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69550</link>
		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problemo, Henry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problemo, Henry!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69510</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted at just about same time as RLM - glad he took it the way it was meant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted at just about same time as RLM &#8211; glad he took it the way it was meant!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69509</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww, wasn&#039;t really bad mounthing - just trying to have some fun!  Baiting was more what I was doing!   

But, yeah, baiting can be tricky and be missconstrued.  

No problem!  Will try to behave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww, wasn&#8217;t really bad mounthing &#8211; just trying to have some fun!  Baiting was more what I was doing!   </p>
<p>But, yeah, baiting can be tricky and be missconstrued.  </p>
<p>No problem!  Will try to behave!</p>
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		<title>By: RLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, 

 I would not mind if Henry badmouthed me in his latest comment log. 

 That&#039;s what I always advocate the no-hold censorship practice for truer 
freedom of the speech.  

  I always love hearing others diss or criticize or badmouth or put me down. 

  I have a real thick skin! :) 

RLM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, </p>
<p> I would not mind if Henry badmouthed me in his latest comment log. </p>
<p> That&#8217;s what I always advocate the no-hold censorship practice for truer<br />
freedom of the speech.  </p>
<p>  I always love hearing others diss or criticize or badmouth or put me down. </p>
<p>  I have a real thick skin! <img src='http://www.edsalert.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>RLM</p>
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		<title>By: edsalert</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69501</link>
		<dc:creator>edsalert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry,

You&#039;re a good friend of mine.  I will need to slap your hands, however.  I have this strict policy not to bad mouth to specific persons.  [slap slap] I deleted the bad mouthing part.   Please refrain from that in the future.

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a good friend of mine.  I will need to slap your hands, however.  I have this strict policy not to bad mouth to specific persons.  [slap slap] I deleted the bad mouthing part.   Please refrain from that in the future.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69499</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  Ed, you pass.  A+.  If I had teen kids at this point I hope I would respond like you say you do.  Back when I had them (one is close to now having her own teen!) the internet was just beginning!  But we had our own similar temptations then!

(Yeah, I was being purposedly cynical - often gets the response I want!)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  Ed, you pass.  A+.  If I had teen kids at this point I hope I would respond like you say you do.  Back when I had them (one is close to now having her own teen!) the internet was just beginning!  But we had our own similar temptations then!</p>
<p>(Yeah, I was being purposedly cynical &#8211; often gets the response I want!)</p>
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		<title>By: RLM</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69491</link>
		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to CNW, 

  Parents in general, would be better off by being reasonably involved with their own children&#039;s entertainment and educational viewings than dictating what their offsprings suppose to watch, etc.

  Too many parents like &quot;helicopter parents&quot; usually go overboard with their children&#039;s outlook of the world by inserting the narrow ideological leanings, instead of broadening their children&#039;s minds with unfiltered viewings to see what the real world is all about. 

  Here is the classic censorship case involved the &quot;Driver and Road&quot; magazine at one of the school library. The librarian doesn&#039;t like what she read about the editorial piece criticized the new manadatory federal law on speed limits. The school library decided to cancel the magazine subscription based on that editoral column. 

  The &quot;Driver and Road&#039; magazine editor responsed _&quot;I thought that the school have the responsibility to prepare their own students for the real world, not shield them&quot;. How true! 

  Another recent case involved two lez (lesbain) parents let their only adopted son watched anything. Their son&#039;s favorite pastime is to listen to Rush Limbaugh&#039;s radio programs and became the staunch Republican himself. Guess what?? The lez parents get their real benefit for letting their son turn Republican which the son became actively involved in the GOP political structure and speak out in feverent support for gay marriage. The son determined to make sure the GOP see the real benefit for gay marriage as way of benefitting the society at large for stable relationship and civil rights issue. 

  If the parents do filtering out their children which will be very harmful in the long run for the comphrensive understanding of how the world works. 

  My deaf mother and hearing brother always accused me of being the Reagan Republican. In truth, I was neither the Republican or Democrat myself. I just wanted to view the Reagan speech on television to see his own speaking style, not being indoctrinated by Reagan or anyone else. 

  Thank God for my parents&#039; parenting style for allowing me read pornographic magazines at very young age which I love to read their editoral pieces from Hustler to Penthouse to Playboy. That doesn&#039;t turn me into a sex fanatic at all. I knew what the difference between fanasty and reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to CNW, </p>
<p>  Parents in general, would be better off by being reasonably involved with their own children&#8217;s entertainment and educational viewings than dictating what their offsprings suppose to watch, etc.</p>
<p>  Too many parents like &#8220;helicopter parents&#8221; usually go overboard with their children&#8217;s outlook of the world by inserting the narrow ideological leanings, instead of broadening their children&#8217;s minds with unfiltered viewings to see what the real world is all about. </p>
<p>  Here is the classic censorship case involved the &#8220;Driver and Road&#8221; magazine at one of the school library. The librarian doesn&#8217;t like what she read about the editorial piece criticized the new manadatory federal law on speed limits. The school library decided to cancel the magazine subscription based on that editoral column. </p>
<p>  The &#8220;Driver and Road&#8217; magazine editor responsed _&#8221;I thought that the school have the responsibility to prepare their own students for the real world, not shield them&#8221;. How true! </p>
<p>  Another recent case involved two lez (lesbain) parents let their only adopted son watched anything. Their son&#8217;s favorite pastime is to listen to Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s radio programs and became the staunch Republican himself. Guess what?? The lez parents get their real benefit for letting their son turn Republican which the son became actively involved in the GOP political structure and speak out in feverent support for gay marriage. The son determined to make sure the GOP see the real benefit for gay marriage as way of benefitting the society at large for stable relationship and civil rights issue. </p>
<p>  If the parents do filtering out their children which will be very harmful in the long run for the comphrensive understanding of how the world works. </p>
<p>  My deaf mother and hearing brother always accused me of being the Reagan Republican. In truth, I was neither the Republican or Democrat myself. I just wanted to view the Reagan speech on television to see his own speaking style, not being indoctrinated by Reagan or anyone else. </p>
<p>  Thank God for my parents&#8217; parenting style for allowing me read pornographic magazines at very young age which I love to read their editoral pieces from Hustler to Penthouse to Playboy. That doesn&#8217;t turn me into a sex fanatic at all. I knew what the difference between fanasty and reality.</p>
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		<title>By: RLM</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69488</link>
		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ed and others, 

  I am really delighted to see many fruitful discussion on the aspects of censorship when come to the closed captioning of various television and Internet programmings for deaf viewers. 

  Many of you surely have good points about the possibility of excluding specific words like &quot;breast&quot; or &quot;Dick&quot;- very common male name for the 1950s. 
Very popular children book stories like &quot;Dick and Jane&quot;. 

  Same thing with &quot;gay&quot; which could be misinterpreted as something inapproriate. That&#039;s what happened to many public libraries across the country by filtering out any wordings with &quot;gay&quot;. 

  What about the Ole Gay Day from the 1890s? That was very common word use during the 19th century which meant &quot;happy time&quot;. 

  Not many people realize that the Holy Bible usually have been mostly censored reading materials in the history of humankind over centuries, especially the Communist countries. 

  The Bible have full of sadistic, unmoral and sexual stories. Should we filter out the bBLE?

rlm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ed and others, </p>
<p>  I am really delighted to see many fruitful discussion on the aspects of censorship when come to the closed captioning of various television and Internet programmings for deaf viewers. </p>
<p>  Many of you surely have good points about the possibility of excluding specific words like &#8220;breast&#8221; or &#8220;Dick&#8221;- very common male name for the 1950s.<br />
Very popular children book stories like &#8220;Dick and Jane&#8221;. </p>
<p>  Same thing with &#8220;gay&#8221; which could be misinterpreted as something inapproriate. That&#8217;s what happened to many public libraries across the country by filtering out any wordings with &#8220;gay&#8221;. </p>
<p>  What about the Ole Gay Day from the 1890s? That was very common word use during the 19th century which meant &#8220;happy time&#8221;. </p>
<p>  Not many people realize that the Holy Bible usually have been mostly censored reading materials in the history of humankind over centuries, especially the Communist countries. </p>
<p>  The Bible have full of sadistic, unmoral and sexual stories. Should we filter out the bBLE?</p>
<p>rlm</p>
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		<title>By: Steffani Hobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.edsalert.com/2009/07/06/closed-captioning-filtered/comment-page-1/#comment-69482</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffani Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in response to Jeff&#039;s question about bleeped out words.  Jeff, As Ed&#039;s oldest daughter, I am very used to watching the close captioning even though I can hear the words. I would say that the majority of the time when the words are bleeped out in captioning, they have also been bleeped out to anyone who is listening. Sometimes they actually say &quot;bleep&quot;, but most of the time, the word is just left out. It is like they just recorded nothing over the word. Hope this helps.

Steffani</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in response to Jeff&#8217;s question about bleeped out words.  Jeff, As Ed&#8217;s oldest daughter, I am very used to watching the close captioning even though I can hear the words. I would say that the majority of the time when the words are bleeped out in captioning, they have also been bleeped out to anyone who is listening. Sometimes they actually say &#8220;bleep&#8221;, but most of the time, the word is just left out. It is like they just recorded nothing over the word. Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Steffani</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there should be any censorship of the closed captioning at all by parents or by the government. If a parent is not comfortable with the language of TV show the parent should block the entire show which is easy on most of today&#039;s TVs and Cable Boxes. Closed captioning should relfect EXACTLY what is being said and heard on the TV. If the word is said it should be captioned as such. If the word is bleeped out it should be captioned as such. If the parent feels that the language is not appropriate then the entire show should be blocked and the Captioning should remain untouched and unfiltered. Hearing people cannot turn on a voice filter for their hearing kids so why should we be able to do that with captioning? 

Deaf kids with hearing parents are born with a built in disadvantage. Kids learn loads by simply hearing the conversations of their adult peers and picking up bits and pieces of information. This is why it is so important to expose a deaf child to as many things as possible when they are young. You basically want to overcome this built in disadvantage. I would hate for my child to miss out on even more things because the word &quot;breast&quot; was filtered out on a cooking show that was showing how to cook a chicken or that he beleived that our former Vice Presidents name was &quot;Bleep&quot; Cheney.

Another issue I have with real time closed captioners is that they do alot of on the spot censorship. I can remember one time in a live broadcast of a baseball game the sports announcer said something that was innappropriate. My hearing friends were aghast and it never showed up on the captioning so I was left out of the loop. Instead of making my own decision about whether it was appropriate or not the closed captioner decided to make that decision for me. Thank you Mr. closed captioning person but I think I can think for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there should be any censorship of the closed captioning at all by parents or by the government. If a parent is not comfortable with the language of TV show the parent should block the entire show which is easy on most of today&#8217;s TVs and Cable Boxes. Closed captioning should relfect EXACTLY what is being said and heard on the TV. If the word is said it should be captioned as such. If the word is bleeped out it should be captioned as such. If the parent feels that the language is not appropriate then the entire show should be blocked and the Captioning should remain untouched and unfiltered. Hearing people cannot turn on a voice filter for their hearing kids so why should we be able to do that with captioning? </p>
<p>Deaf kids with hearing parents are born with a built in disadvantage. Kids learn loads by simply hearing the conversations of their adult peers and picking up bits and pieces of information. This is why it is so important to expose a deaf child to as many things as possible when they are young. You basically want to overcome this built in disadvantage. I would hate for my child to miss out on even more things because the word &#8220;breast&#8221; was filtered out on a cooking show that was showing how to cook a chicken or that he beleived that our former Vice Presidents name was &#8220;Bleep&#8221; Cheney.</p>
<p>Another issue I have with real time closed captioners is that they do alot of on the spot censorship. I can remember one time in a live broadcast of a baseball game the sports announcer said something that was innappropriate. My hearing friends were aghast and it never showed up on the captioning so I was left out of the loop. Instead of making my own decision about whether it was appropriate or not the closed captioner decided to make that decision for me. Thank you Mr. closed captioning person but I think I can think for myself.</p>
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