Comments on: FCC Still Supports VRS http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/ POSTS ALERTS REGARDING TRS & ITS RELATED ISSUES Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:46:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: DeafWarrior http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-83837 DeafWarrior Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:51:30 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-83837 Sad day indeed, but needed nevertheless. It is about time that the greedy, lying management feel the pain of their doings. Why is it that as soon as they start seeing some cash they all get greedy? Most of the managment lies and cheats their way into richness. All we want is an honest provider that is reliable. BUt that would be too much to ask. Integrity and honesty. I would like to see the FBI raid all the major providers, perhaps place a few undercover agents and actually see how they put all that money to work on developing better systems. Instead I think they will find out that a lot of that money is going to peoples pockets. Cut the rates and audit all of them. Sad day indeed, but needed nevertheless. It is about time that the greedy, lying management feel the pain of their doings. Why is it that as soon as they start seeing some cash they all get greedy? Most of the managment lies and cheats their way into richness. All we want is an honest provider that is reliable. BUt that would be too much to ask. Integrity and honesty. I would like to see the FBI raid all the major providers, perhaps place a few undercover agents and actually see how they put all that money to work on developing better systems. Instead I think they will find out that a lot of that money is going to peoples pockets. Cut the rates and audit all of them.

]]> By: CNW http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-83801 CNW Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:41:14 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-83801 A link to a personal message by John TC Yeh as reported by Seth Gerlis of i Deaf News: http://vimeo.com/m/#/16268599 A link to a personal message by John TC Yeh as reported by Seth Gerlis of i Deaf News: http://vimeo.com/m/#/16268599

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-83772 edsalert Thu, 28 Oct 2010 23:08:35 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-83772 Another link http://washingtondc.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/wfo102810.htm Another link

http://washingtondc.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/wfo102810.htm

]]> By: Betty Boop http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-83768 Betty Boop Thu, 28 Oct 2010 22:17:32 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-83768 Here's a link to the story: http://beforeitsnews.com/story/240/203/Yeh_Brothers_Plead_Guilty_in_55_Million_Video_Relay_Service_Fraud.html Here’s a link to the story:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/240/203/Yeh_Brothers_Plead_Guilty_in_55_Million_Video_Relay_Service_Fraud.html

]]> By: Terpgirl http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-83764 Terpgirl Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:40:13 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-83764 Heard the Yeh's are guiilty. Any confirmation? tg Heard the Yeh’s are guiilty. Any confirmation?

tg

]]> By: Terpgirl http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-74588 Terpgirl Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:52:20 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-74588 Jeff is absolutely right! If he is who I think he is, he is an attorney and knows better. But we all know better; we don't need a JD degree for that. I knew this government fraud with kickbacks scheme wouldn't last. That wasn't the worst part, however. What I knew even more was that it would cause trouble and great suspicion in a field that absolutely does not need that. Deaf and hard of hearing people who use sign language have waited since the 1870s to use the telephone in their natural language, and these people have to come along and risk it all through fraud? The FCC is already upset about how expensive it is to run the service. It costs plenty, and for the minutes that represent legitimate calls, I think the expense is justified. After all, you get what you pay for, and we all know that typists are cheaper and easier to find (and easier to house in one large building that covers the entire state) than sign language interpreters. I don't understand how in the world anybody thinks that they can justify fraud, however. And for anybody to come along and risk the TRS fund that way, thank goodness the FCC will still support video relay and see the good in it, but anything could've happened. It is a very few rotten apples, but their effect will probably always be felt. They will probably get a white-collar style slap on the wrist, but I certainly hope that they will not be allowed to practice video relay provision in the United States again, at the very least. Jeff is absolutely right! If he is who I think he is, he is an attorney and knows better. But we all know better; we don’t need a JD degree for that. I knew this government fraud with kickbacks scheme wouldn’t last. That wasn’t the worst part, however. What I knew even more was that it would cause trouble and great suspicion in a field that absolutely does not need that. Deaf and hard of hearing people who use sign language have waited since the 1870s to use the telephone in their natural language, and these people have to come along and risk it all through fraud? The FCC is already upset about how expensive it is to run the service. It costs plenty, and for the minutes that represent legitimate calls, I think the expense is justified. After all, you get what you pay for, and we all know that typists are cheaper and easier to find (and easier to house in one large building that covers the entire state) than sign language interpreters. I don’t understand how in the world anybody thinks that they can justify fraud, however. And for anybody to come along and risk the TRS fund that way, thank goodness the FCC will still support video relay and see the good in it, but anything could’ve happened. It is a very few rotten apples, but their effect will probably always be felt. They will probably get a white-collar style slap on the wrist, but I certainly hope that they will not be allowed to practice video relay provision in the United States again, at the very least.

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-74343 edsalert Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:52:24 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-74343 Cousin Vinny, I want to comment on your mentioning of codifying rule or two. I think this will be the case with VRS. There is a core regulation - from original TRS regulation that specifically said TRS is to provide a service between hearing persons and deaf/hoh and the exceptions are voice mail and answering machines. So if any TRS features do not specifically meet this core regulation, they're in violation. I believe FCC will play on that angle. We'll see how FCC eventually addresses that... eyes open & thumbs up, Cousin Vinny,

I want to comment on your mentioning of codifying rule or two. I think this will be the case with VRS. There is a core regulation – from original TRS regulation that specifically said TRS is to provide a service between hearing persons and deaf/hoh and the exceptions are voice mail and answering machines. So if any TRS features do not specifically meet this core regulation, they’re in violation. I believe FCC will play on that angle.

We’ll see how FCC eventually addresses that…

eyes open & thumbs up,

]]> By: X-files http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-74249 X-files Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:38:18 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-74249 Hello guys, Regarding.. I'm trying to get closer to 100% verify how many are deaf and hearing people. So far I learned there are 18 --- EIGHTEEN HEARING people!!! and only 8 DEAF people arrested. Please correct me. Hello guys, Regarding.. I’m trying to get closer to 100% verify how many are deaf and hearing people. So far I learned there are 18 — EIGHTEEN HEARING people!!! and only 8 DEAF people arrested. Please correct me.

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-74210 edsalert Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:20:12 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-74210 George Adams, Interesting idea. Have NECA use a gigantic mainframe computer to process all VRS calls. Unfortunately that won't fly. Too many technical issues and many new ideas won't be possible with this system. However, what I think FCC is leading to is to start reviewing all the minutes with a fine tooth comb (personally I think they should have done that a long time ago). I think that when FCC gets a new TRS Administrator (currently NECA), new responsibilities will be given to the new TRS administrator to keep an eye on all calls to ensure they are legal and all that. Gonna be a tough job, but suspect that is prob what will happen. eyes open & thumbs up, George Adams,

Interesting idea. Have NECA use a gigantic mainframe computer to process all VRS calls. Unfortunately that won’t fly. Too many technical issues and many new ideas won’t be possible with this system.

However, what I think FCC is leading to is to start reviewing all the minutes with a fine tooth comb (personally I think they should have done that a long time ago). I think that when FCC gets a new TRS Administrator (currently NECA), new responsibilities will be given to the new TRS administrator to keep an eye on all calls to ensure they are legal and all that. Gonna be a tough job, but suspect that is prob what will happen.

eyes open & thumbs up,

]]> By: edsalert http://www.edsalert.com/2009/11/25/fcc-still-support-vrshello-everyone-since-i-became-part-of-convo-team-i-have-become-very-involved-with-activities-of-convo-now-that-the-affairs-of-convo-have-become-bit-more-settled-plus-all-the/comment-page-1/#comment-74208 edsalert Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:05:43 +0000 http://www.edsalert.com/?p=998#comment-74208 Cousin Vinny, Thanks for well wishes. I am afraid you may be right about tip of iceberg. There may or may not be another round of arrests. What is likely to happen, I suspect, is another round of "hold back" funds of a few VRS providers that may still provide illegal or questionable VRS calls. These "hold back" funds tactic are devastating for VRS providers as it stops or minimizes their cash flow; if VRS providers already had amble back-up fund then they will not suffer as much. eyes open & thumbs up, Cousin Vinny,

Thanks for well wishes.

I am afraid you may be right about tip of iceberg. There may or may not be another round of arrests. What is likely to happen, I suspect, is another round of “hold back” funds of a few VRS providers that may still provide illegal or questionable VRS calls. These “hold back” funds tactic are devastating for VRS providers as it stops or minimizes their cash flow; if VRS providers already had amble back-up fund then they will not suffer as much.

eyes open & thumbs up,

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